El Evangelio de Judas Iscarionte ¿Traidor o Salvador? (Traducción del Evangelio)
29/03/2010
El Evangelio de Judas
Ante todo quiero dejar clara hoy una cosa, este texto que vais a leer a continuación no tiene ninguna intención mas que la de informar sobre algo que es, al menos a mi parecer, muy interesante.
El hallazgo del evangelio, que data del sigo II DC, según pruebas del Carbono-14, fue encontrado a mediados de los años 70, y en el año 2006 fue publicada su traducción del códice copto (que supuestamente era una traducción del original en Griego) al inglés por Nacional Geografic.
Pues bien para los que saben de historia de la Biblia y teología, entienden el hecho, para mi un tanto extraño, de que la Biblia consta de 4 evangelios, cado uno de un apóstol, pero cuantos apóstoles hubo? 12… yo donde están el resto de evangelios? No deberían estar en La Biblia? Esto esta bien documentado en la historia, cuando se “montó” la Biblia se elgieron lso que mas interesaron al primer emperador romano converso. Constantino
Pues bien en leer mas encontrareis la traducción del evangelio de Judas, en el cual no se relata a Judas como un “traidor”. Según el texto Judas traicionó a Jesucristo a petición de este mismo… Asombroso¿ no os parece?
Dadle a Leer mas, ahí podréis leer el extracto del evangelio de judas, asi como enlaces informativos sobre el tema….
EL EVANGELIO DE JUDAS
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Traducción de Gustavo Vázquez Lozano (Las palabras en paréntesis son reconstruidas.)El relato secreto de la revelación que Jesús hizo en conversación con Judas Iscariote durante una semana tres días antes de que celebrara la Pascua.
Cuando Jesús apareció en la tierra, hizo milagros y grandes maravillas por la salvación de la humanidad. Y dado que algunos (anduvieron por) el camino de la rectitud en tanto que otros siguieron con sus transgresiones, llamó a los doce discípulos.
Comenzó a hablar con ellos sobre los misterios más allá del mundo y lo que sucedería en el final. Con frecuencia no aparecía ante sus discípulos como sí mismo, sino que se le veía entre ellos como un niño.
Un día estaba con sus discípulos en Judea y los encontró reunidos y sentados en observancia piadosa. Cuando (se aproximó) a sus discípulos, reunidos y sentados y ofreciendo una oración de acción de gracias sobre el pan, (él) se empezó a reír. Los discípulos (le) dijeron: Maestro, ¿por qué te ríes de (nuestra) oración de acción de gracias? Hemos hecho lo correcto.
Él les contestó y les dijo: “No me estoy riendo de ustedes. Ustedes no hacen esto por su propia voluntad sino porque es a través de esto que su dios recibe alabanzas”. Le dijeron: “Maestro, tu eres (…) el hijo de nuestro dios”. Jesús les dijo “En verdad (les) digo, ninguna generación de los pueblos que están entre ustedes me conocerá”.
Cuando sus discípulos oyeron esto empezaron a enojarse y se pusieron furiosos y comenzaron a blasfemar contra él en sus corazones. Cuando Jesús observó su falta de (entendimiento, les dijo): “¿Por qué les hace enojar esta agitación? El dios que está en ustedes y que (…) les han causado enojo (en) sus almas. El de ustedes que sea lo suficientemente fuerte entre los humanos, (que) traiga al ser humano perfecto y se ponga frente a mi”. Todos dijeron: “No tenemos la fuerza”.
Pero sus espíritus no tuvieron el valor de ponerse frente (a él), excepto Judas Iscariote. Él fue capaz de ponerse frente a él pero no pudo verlo a los ojos, y miró hacia otro lado. Judas le (dijo): “Yo sé quién eres y de dónde vienes. Eres del reino inmortal de Barbelo. Y no soy digno de pronunciar el nombre del que te ha enviado”.
Sabiendo que Judas estaba reflexionando sobre algo que está exaltado, Jesús le dijo: “Retírate de los otros y te diré los misterios del reino. Es posible que tu lo alcances, pero sufrirás mucho. Porque alguien más te reemplazará, para que los doce (discípulos) puedan otra vez llegar a ser completos con su dios”. Judas le dijo: “¿Cuándo me dirás estas cosas, y (cuándo) amanecerá el gran día de luz para la generación?”.
Pero cuando dijo esto, Jesús lo dejó.A la mañana siguiente, después de que sucedió esto, Jesús (se apareció) a sus discípulos nuevamente. Ellos le dijeron: “Maestro, ¿a dónde fuiste y qué hiciste mientras nos dejaste?”. Jesús les dijo: “Fui con otra generación grande y santa”. Sus discípulos le dijeron: “Señor, qué es esa gran generación que es superior a la nuestra y más santa que la nuestra, que no está en estos lugares?”. Cuando Jesús oyó esto, se rió y les dijo: “¿Por qué están pensando en sus corazones sobre la generación fuerte y santa? En verdad les digo, nadie que haya nacido (en) este eón verá esa (generación), y ningún ejército de ángeles de las estrellas gobernará esa generación, y ninguna persona mortal por nacimiento se puede asociar con ella, porque esa generación no viene de (…) que se ha convertido en (…) La generación de personas entre (ustedes) es de la generación de la humanidad (…) poder, que (…los) otros poderes (…) por (los cuales) ustedes gobiernan”.
Cuando sus discípulos oyeron esto, todos se sintieron acongojados de espíritu. No podían decir una palabra.
Otro día vino Jesús hacia (ellos). (Le) dijeron: “Maestro, te hemos visto en una (visión), porque hemos tenido grandes (sueños…) noche (…).
(Él les dijo): “¿Por qué (ustedes…cuando) estaban escondidos?”
Ellos (le dijeron: “Hemos visto) una gran (casa con un gran) altar (dentro, y) doce hombres –son los sacerdotes, diríamos– y un nombre; y una multitud de gente está esperando en el altar, (hasta que) los sacerdotes (…y reciben) las ofrendas. (Pero) seguimos esperando”.
(Jesús dijo): “¿Cómo son (los sacerdotes)?
Ellos (dijeron: “Algunos…) dos semanas; (algunos) sacrifican a sus propios hijos, otros a sus esposas, en alabanza (y) humildad con el otro; algunos duermen con hombres; algunos se ven envueltos en (asesinato); algunos cometen una multitud de pecados y hechos fuera de la ley. Y los hombres que se presentan al altar invocan tu (nombre), y en toda la extensión de sus deficiencias, los sacrificios son efectuados hasta ser completados (…).
Después de haber dicho esto, se quedaron en silencio, porque estaban perturbados.
Jesús les dijo: “¿Por qué están perturbados? En verdad les digo, todos los sacerdotes que se presentan en ese altar invocan mi nombre. Nuevamente les digo, mi nombre ha sido escrito en este (…) de la generación de las estrellas a través de las generaciones humanas. (Y ellas) han plantado árboles sin fruto, en mi nombre, de una manera vergonzosa”.
Jesús les dijo: “A esos que han visto recibiendo las ofrendas en el altar – eso es lo que ustedes son. Ese es el dios al que sirven, y ustedes son esos doce hombres que vieron. El ganado que han visto acercar al sacrificio son todas las personas a las que han engañado frente a ese altar. (…) se pondrán de pie y harán uso de mi nombre de esta forma, y las generaciones de los justos permanecerán fieles a él. Después de eso otro hombre se pondrá de pie de entre (los fornicadores), y otro de los asesinos de niños, y otro de aquellos que duermen con hombres, y de aquellos que se abstienen, y del resto de la gente de la contaminación y la iniquidad y el error, y de aquellos que dicen “Somos como los ángeles”; ellos son las estrellas que traen todo a su conclusión. Porque se le ha dicho a las generaciones humanas: “Miren, Dios ha recibido su sacrificio de las manos de un sacerdote”, es decir, de un ministro del error. Pero es el Señor, el Señor del universo, quien ordena: “En el último día serán avergonzados”.
Jesús (les) dijo: “Dejen de sac (rificar…) que ustedes han (…) en el altar, porque ellos están sobre sus estrellas y sus ángeles y ya han llegado a su conclusión aquí. Déjenlos (…) ante ustedes, y déjenlos ir ( –aquí faltan como 15 renglones– ) generaciones (…). Un panadero no puede alimentar a toda la creación que está bajo el (cielo). Y (…) a ellos (…) y (…) a nosotros y (…).
Jesús les dijo: “Dejen de luchar contra mí. Cada uno de ustedes tiene su propia estrella y tod (os –aquí faltan como 17 renglones– ) en (…) que ha llegado a convertirse en (…primavera) porque el árbol (…) de este eón (…) por un tiempo (…) pero él ha venido a regar el paraíso de Dios, y la (generación) que durará, porque no sacrificará ni manchará el (camino de la vida de) esa generación, sino (…) por toda la eternidad.
Judas (le dijo: “Rabb) i, ¿qué clase de frutos produce esta generación?” Jesús dijo: “Las almas de todas las generaciones humanas morirán. Cuando estas personas, sin embargo, hayan completado el tiempo del reino y el espíritu las abandone, sus cuerpos morirán, pero sus almas estarán vivas, y serán llevadas a lo alto”.
Judas dijo: “¿Y qué harán el resto de las generaciones humanas?”
Jesús dijo: “Es imposible plantar la semilla en la (roca) y cosechar sus frutos. (Así es) también el camino (…) la generación (manchada…) y corruptible Sophia (…) la mano que ha creado a la gente mortal, para que sus almas suban a los reinos eternos de lo alto. (En verdad) les digo, (…) ángel (…) poder será capaz de ver que (…) aquellos a quienes (…) generaciones sagradas (…)”.
Y Jesús dijo esto, se fue.
Judas dijo: “Maestro, así como los has escuchado a todos ellos, ahora escúchame a mí también. Porque he tenido una gran visión”.
Cuando Jesús oyó esto, se rió y le dijo: “Tu, espíritu decimotercero, ¿por qué te esfuerzas tanto? Pero habla, y estaré acompañándote”.
Judas le dijo: “En la visión me vi a mí mismo mientras los doce discípulos me apedreaban y me perseguían (duramente). Y También llegué al lugar donde (…) tras de ti. Vi (una casa…) y mis ojos no podían (abarcar) su tamaño. Había grandes gentes rodeándola, y esa casa tenía un tejado de vegetación, y en medio de la casa estaba (una multitud –faltan aquí dos renglones– ) diciendo: “Maestro, llévame junto con esta gente”.
(Jesús) respondió y dijo: “Judas, tu estrella te ha extraviado”. Y continuó: “Ninguna persona que ha nacido mortal es digna de entrar a la casa que has visto, pues ese lugar está reservado para los santos. Ni el sol ni la luna gobernarán ahí, ni el día, pero lo santo siempre morará ahí, en el reino eterno con los santos ángeles. Mira, te he explicado los misterios del reino y te he enseñado sobre el error de las estrellas; y (…) enviarlo (…) en los doce eones”.
Judas dijo: “Maestro, podría ser que mi semilla está bajo el control de los que gobiernan?”
Jesús le contestó y le dijo: “Ven, para que yo ( –faltan dos renglones– ) pero que tu te lamentarás mucho cuando veas al reino y toda su generación”.
Cuando oyó esto, Judas le dijo: “¿Cuál es el bien que yo he recibido? Pues tu me has apartado de todas las generaciones.”
Jesús le contestó y dijo: “Tu te convertirás en el decimotercero, y serás maldecido por otras generaciones – y tu llegarás a gobernar sobre ellos. En los últimos días maldecirán tu ascendencia a la (generación) sagrada.”
Jesús dijo: “(Ven) para que te enseñe sobre los (secretos) que ninguna persona (ha) visto jamás. Porque existe un reino grande y sin fronteras, cuya extensión no ha visto ninguna generación de ángeles, y (en el que) hay (un Espíritu) grande e invisible,
que no ha visto el ojo de un ángel
que ningún pensamiento del corazón ha abarcado
y que nunca fue llamado por ningún nombre.
y ahí apareció una nube luminosa. Y dijo “Que exista un ángel para ser mi ayudante”. Un gran ángel, el Auto-generado, emergió de la nube. A causa de él, otros cuatro ángeles se formaron de otra nube, y se convirtieron en ayudantes del Auto-generado angélico. “Que (…) aparezca (…) y apareció (…). Y (creó) la primera luminaria para que reinara sobre él. Dijo: “Que los ángeles existan para servirlo”, y miríadas de ángeles sin número empezaron a existir. Dijo: “(Que) exista un eón iluminado”, y comenzó a existir. Creó a la segunda luminaria (para) reinar sobre él, junto con miríadas de ángeles sin número, para ofrecer servicio. Así es como creó al resto de los eones iluminados. Los hizo reinar sobre él y creó para ellos miríadas de ángeles sin número, para ayudarlos”.“Adamas estaba en la primera nube luminosa que ningún ángel ha visto entre todos aquellos llamados “Dios”. Él (…) que (…) la imagen (…) y a la semejanza de (este) ángel. Hizo a la incorruptible (generación) de Seth aparecer (…) los doce (…) los veinticuatro (…). Hizo aparecer setenta y dos luminarias en la generación incorruptible, de acuerdo con la voluntad del Espíritu. Las mismas setenta y dos luminarias hicieron aparecer 360 luminarias en la generación incorruptible, de acuerdo con la voluntad del Espíritu, de modo que su número fuera cinco para cada una”.
“Los doce eones de las doce luminarias constituyen su padre, con seis cielos para cada eón, para que haya setenta y dos cielos para las setenta y dos luminarias, y por cada (una de ellas cinco) firmamentos, (para un total de) 350 (firmamentos…). Se les dio autoridad, (y después de eso también) espíritus vírgenes, para gloria y (adoración) de todos los eones y los cielos y sus firmamentos”.
“La multitud de esos inmortales se llama cosmos –es decir, perdición– por el Padre y las setenta y dos luminarias que están con el Auto-generado y sus setenta y dos eones. En él apareció el primer humano con sus poderes incorruptibles. Y el eón que apareció con su generación, el eón en el que están la nube del conocimiento y el ángel se llama El. (…) eón (…) después de eso (…) dijo: Que los doce ángeles reinen sobre el caos y el (inframundo). Y de la nube apareció un (ángel) cuyo rostro relampagueaba con fuego y cuya apariencia fue manchada con sangre. Su nombre era Nebro, que significa rebelde; otros le llamaban Yaldabaoth. Otro ángel, Saklas, también apareció de la nube. Y Nebro creó seis ángeles –y también Saklas– para ser ayudantes, y éstos produjeron doce ángeles en el cielo, cada uno recibiendo una porción en los cielos.
Los doce gobernantes hablaron con los doce ángeles: “Que cada uno de ustedes (…) y que (…) generación (falta un renglón) ángeles.
El primero es Seth, llamado Cristo.
El (segundo) es Harmathoth, llamado (…)
El (tercero) es Galila.
El cuarto es Yobel.
El quinto (es) Adonaios.Estos son los cinco que reinaron sobre el inframundo, y primero sobre el caos.
Entonces Saklas dijo a sus ángeles: “Vamos a crear a un ser humano a semejanza y a imagen”. Moldearon a Adán y a su esposa Eva, que se llama, en la nube, Zoe. Porque por este nombre todas las generaciones buscan al hombre, y cada uno de ellos llama a la mujer con estos nombres. Y Sakla no (ordenó) excepto (…) las (generaciones…) este (…). Y el gobernante dijo a Adán: Vivirás muchos años con tus hijos.
Judas dijo a Jesús: “¿(Cuál) es la extensa duración de tiempo que vivirá el ser humano?” Jesús dijo: “¿Por qué te preguntas sobre estas cosas, que Adán, con su generación, ha vivido su plazo de vida en el sitio donde ha recibido su reino, con longevidad, con su gobernante?”
Judas dijo a Jesús: “¿Muere el espíritu humano?”
Jesús dijo: “Por eso Dios ordenó a Miguel dar los espíritus a las personas como préstamo, para que ofrecieran servicio, pero el Grande ordenó a Gabriel otorgar espíritus a la gran generación que no tiene gobernante, es decir, el espíritu y el alma. Por tanto, el (resto) de las almas (falta un renglón).“(…) luz (faltan cerca de los renglones) alrededor (…) que (…) espíritu (que está) dentro de ustedes mora en esta (carne) entre las generaciones de los ángeles. Pero Dios hizo que el conocimiento fuera dado a Adán y a aquellos que estaban con él, para que el rey del caos y el inframundo no lo rigieran sobre ellos”.
Judas dijo a Jesús: “¿Y qué harán esas generaciones?”
Jesús dijo: “En verdad te digo, por todos ellos las estrellas hacen que se completen las cosas. Cuando Saklas complete el tiempo que se le ha asignado, su primera estrella aparecerá con las generaciones, y terminarán lo que dijeron que harían. Entonces fornicarán en mi nombre y matarán a sus hijos y ellos (…) y (faltan alrededor de seis y medio renglones) mi nombre y él (…) su estrella sobre el (decimotercer) eón”.
Después de eso, Jesús (se rió).
(Judas dijo): “Maestro, (¿por qué te ríes de nosotros?)”
(Jesús) respondió (y dijo): “No me estoy riendo (de ustedes), sino del error de las estrellas, porque estas seis estrellas vagan entre estos cinco combatientes, y ellas serán destruidas junto con sus criaturas”.
Judas dijo a Jesús: “¿Qué harán aquellos bautizados en tu nombre?”
Jesús dijo a Judas: “En verdad (te) digo, Judas, este bautismo (…) mi nombre ( –faltan cerca de nueve renglones– ) a mí. En verdad (te) digo, Judas, (aquellos que) ofrezcan sacrificios a Saklas (…) Dios ( –faltan tres renglones– ) todo lo que es maligno. Pero tu excederás a todos ellos. Porque tu sacrificarás al hombre que me reviste”.
Ya tu cuerno ha sido levantado
Tu furia ha sido suavizada
Tu estrella ha brillado intensamente
Y tu corazón ha (…)“En verdad (…) tu último (…) llegado a ser ( –faltan cerca de dos renglones y medio– ), lamentan ( –faltan cerca de dos renglones– ) el que gobierna, porque éste será destruido. Y entonces la imagen de la gran generación de Adán será exaltada, porque antes que el cielo, la tierra y los ángeles, esa generación, que es de los reinos eternos, existe. Mira, ya se te ha dicho todo. Levanta tus ojos y mira a la nube y a la luz dentro de ella y a las estrellas que la rodean. La estrella que guía a las otras es tu estrella”.
Judas levantó sus ojos y vio la nube luminosa, y entró en ella. Aquellos que estaban en el suelo escucharon una gran voz que venía de la nube, diciendo (…) gran generación (…) imagen ( –faltan cerca de cinco renglones– ).
(…) Sus sumos sacerdotes murmuraban porque (él) había entrado en el cuarto de los invitados para hacer su oración. Pero algunos escribas vigilaban cuidadosamente para arrestarlo durante la oración, porque tenían miedo del pueblo, porque era considerado por todos como un profeta. Se acercaron a Judas y le dijeron: “¿Qué estás haciendo aquí? Tu eres un discípulo de Jesús”. Judas les respondió como ellos querían. Y recibió algo de dinero y se los entregó.
La traducción del evengelio ha sido obtenido de http://www.piedrasrodantes.com/judas/
En La wikipedia encontramos mas informacion y enlaces para ampliar el tema.
Una pequeña inquietud.
Si Judas se suicidó poco después de la sentencia de Jesús, ¿que tiempo tuvo para escribir su evangelio?
Otra inquietud
Si la traición fue por orden de Jesús, ¿por qué motivo se suicido?
Una última inquietud
Si Judas se suicido en el 33 DC, ¿cómo es que escribió su evangelio en el 70 DC?
¿No se enteraron los genios de la National Geographic que desde el principio del cristianismo hubieron secta gnósticas que para defender sus doctrinas hacían pseudo-evangelios usando nombres de los apóstoles y que fueron refutados en su tiempo?
El Ciberpastor
PD.
El website del comentario anterior es
http://elciberpastor.wordpress.com
Judas se suicidó al poco tiempo? donde pone eso? En qué evnagelios? Son acaso mas fidedignos ala realidad que este? por que motivo? No pudo ser este evangelio una transcripion o un diario personal de Judas? Quien decidio los evangelios que debian ser incluidos en la ciencia? Fué Dios o alguien con “inspiracion Divina? Acaso crees que la prueba del carbono 14 es totalmente fiable 70 año arriba o abajo? Acaso crees que la biblia es la verdad absoluta cuando solo consta de 4 evangelios, sabiendo que hay mas evangelios escritos, y que todos tienen la misma veracidad (que en ultima instancia puede ser cero)? Por qué los que están fuera de la biblia son “pseudo-evangelios”? PUEDES ASEGURAR CUAL ERA EL MENSAGE DE CRISTO? PUEDES ASEGURAR QUE LA IGLESIA ES UNA MENTIRA? PUEDES ASEGURAR QUE CRISTO NO SE LEVANTARIA DE SU TUMBA Y DECLARARIA MALDITA A LA IGLESIA? EN QUE SE BASA LA RELIGION CRISTIANA??? EN LA BUENA FE??? QUE FE??? LA DE LA ABOBINABLE EXISTENCIA DE “EL VATICANO”,QUE ESTÄ FORRADO DE ORO????? Con el debido respeto, has leido el resto del foro? Te das cuenta y eres consciente de que por culpa de la iglesia hoy estamos y vivimos como vivimos, por su culpa? eres consciente de que hoy podriamos estar muchisimo mas avanzados si no hubiese la iglesia, con su abobinable “santa inquisición” y demás, quemado a cientificos, mentes pensantes, escritores, artistas…cuantos de los citados se han enfrentado a la pena capital por ecpresarse ESE ERA EL MENSAGE DE TU JESUS??? NO ME LO CREO!!!! NO QUIERO CREERLO!!!! Yo no soy cristiano practicante, estoy bautizado a los ojos de la iglesi por decision de mis padres, no por la mia, la iglesia impone, la iglesia censura, la igelsia mata personas inocente cada vez que dice que el preservativo (uno de los pocos medios que se conocen para preservar a la gente del SIDA (Enfermedad MORTAL hoy por hoy) La iglesia es un erros de la naturalez y PARA NADA TRANSMITE EL MENSAGE DE CRISTO EN CASO DE QUE ESTE EXISTIESE.
Así que tu charla de “pastor” no vale nada aqui ni en la otra punta del universo, habeis cojido el nombre de dios para las mayores atrocidades cometidas… No sé como tienes la poca verguenza de hacerte llama CiberPastor… No eres pastor de nada eres un titere más…Espero tu respuesta amigo mio…
He visto tu blog, y me vas a perdonar, pero me parece una puta mierda, ademas tienes cara de ser un desgraciado de mucho cuidado… siiiiiiiiiii lo que hago es provocarte, a ti y al que quiera replicarme… en este blog las malas formas están aceptadas como parte de mi propia religion, libre expresion de LA MUGRE Y LA FURIA!!! joa joa joa joa
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Gracia por leer mi blog
A ver si aprendes un poco de la verdad
El Ciberpastor
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¿Quien fue el secretario de Judas que escribió su diario?
Ah y por si no te enteraste Jesús ya se levantó de la tumba despues de morir por tus pecados
El Ciberpastor
Veamos algunos datos para comprobar que el Evangelio de Judas es una falsificación Gnóstica.
En el relato que colocas del Evangelio de Judas; Judas dice que Jesús: “era del reino de Barbelo”
¿Quién es Barbelo?
De Barbelo no dice nada en los 66 libros de la Biblia, ni tampoco en los otros 7 libros que usan los católicos
Veamos lo que dice la página gnóstica “Teogonomia y Cosmogonía Gnostica”.
“Los doctores gnósticos llamaron “Barbelo” a la primera manifestación divina precisamente para significar e indicar la realización de un proceso de generación espiritual, en donde la realidad femenina subyacente en cada individuo se hace activa, amalgamando y purificando la realidad masculina dinámica para producir la androginia divina; es Barbelita (= 7º grado de iniciación gnóstica) precisamente el que realiza este proceso de divinización.
Por lo tanto Barbelo es para los gnósticos el primer Antropos (= imagen externa y concreta de la androginia divina), estado que puede realizarse cuando la parte masculina fecundante y dinámica de la Divinidad se une al agua de vida de abajo y la activa, para que de esta sustancia positiva y luminosa florezca la Ennoia (= el pensamiento).
Barbelo es vista por ello como la plenitud de la Luz, emanada del Océano de Luz de la Trascecdencia Abismal e insondable, donde el Uno Absoluto (el Inefable Propator) generó la chispa o punto luminoso que hizo posible el camino a su manifestación, la cual sin embargo no es igual a El en esplendor: es el Unigénito o divino autogenerado, el decir el Primer Nacido del Espíritu de Pura Luz que es por consiguiente el Padre de toda la manifestación (por ser el Primer Ser emanado del Propator). ”
El solo uso del término Barbelo para definir la procedencia de Jesús es una prueba concluyente que es un evangelio gnóstico, una falsificación o texto espúreo para propagar su falsa doctrina.
Estudiaré más el texto para demostrar mi punto.
El Ciberpastor
El texto usado anteriormente lo saque de
http://club.telepolis.com/agaigcu/teogonia.htm
El Ciberpastor
Esto es lo ke yo keria! Si señor. Aunque no esté de acuerdo con tu tesis, si que me resulta interesante la cultura que has aportado en parte a este blog ocn ese ultimo comentario tuyo… Gracias.
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El problema con el gnosticismo es que su filosofía es opuesta a la cristiana.
El gnosticismo en esencia esencia enseña al hombre ha alcanzar la salvación por medio de sus acciones; a través de vidas asceticas y monásticas en muchos casos.
En el cristianismo la salvación viene por la fe en Jesucristo, y las buenas acciones que se hagan luego no son para alcanzar la salvación sino que son una consecuencia de tenerla.
Además tenían creencias diferentes al cristianismo como la dualidad el hombre; una especie del yin y yang que hablan las religiones orientales.
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Me estoy informando sobre el gnosticismo… resulta interesante, no soy creyente, pero me interesa la teologia.. Al fin y al cabo de algun modo influye en nosotros, en nuestro modo de vivir y de comportarnos… para mi es una remanente de lo que fuimos y lo que seremos.. no sé si me estoy explicando bien..
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